The govt has accepted the recommendations of the committee on defence pension anomalies headed by the Cabinet Secretary. The govt sanction letters dealing with the subject would be published and notified in the (very) near future.
The major accepted and soon to be implemented recommendations are :
(a) Pensions of pre-2006 PBOR to be computed by taking into account the top end of 5th CPC scales and notionally (through fitment formula) configuring it within the 6th CPC pay bands instead of basing the same on the minimum of the new scales. Practically speaking, a pre-06 Sepoy who was placed at about Rs 3700 basic pension after the 6th CPC would now be granted a basic pension of appx Rs 5500, a jump of almost Rs 1800. There may now emerge some cases wherein the pension of pre-06 retirees may turn out to be more than those of post-06 retirees at certain levels. It may be recalled that prior to the 6th CPC, pensions of PBOR were calculated by taking into account the end of scale whereas for civilian employees and officers the start of scale was taken into consideration. However the 6th CPC had blurred this edge because of the introduction of running pay bands and abolition of separate pay scales for each rank.
(b) Pensions of pre-06 Lieutenant Generals to be upgraded to Rs 36,500 per month. The figure of Rs 36,500 is arrived at by taking into account 50% of the minimum of new HAG scale (Rs 67000-79000) and adding an MSP fitment of Rs 3000 (50% of MSP @6000).
(c) No further improvement or OROP for commissioned officers.
(d) Ceiling on war injury pension (that the total of service element and war injury element of war injury pension should not exceed the last drawn pay) has been removed.
(e) Anomalies in other casualty pensionary awards to be deliberated upon by the Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare (ESW) at MoD.
(Note : Readers are requested not to email me case-specific queries on the above since although I try my best to reply to individual mails, my profession does not allow me such fortune of time. Placing your queries as comments to blogposts would be a better idea. Thanks.)
The major accepted and soon to be implemented recommendations are :
(a) Pensions of pre-2006 PBOR to be computed by taking into account the top end of 5th CPC scales and notionally (through fitment formula) configuring it within the 6th CPC pay bands instead of basing the same on the minimum of the new scales. Practically speaking, a pre-06 Sepoy who was placed at about Rs 3700 basic pension after the 6th CPC would now be granted a basic pension of appx Rs 5500, a jump of almost Rs 1800. There may now emerge some cases wherein the pension of pre-06 retirees may turn out to be more than those of post-06 retirees at certain levels. It may be recalled that prior to the 6th CPC, pensions of PBOR were calculated by taking into account the end of scale whereas for civilian employees and officers the start of scale was taken into consideration. However the 6th CPC had blurred this edge because of the introduction of running pay bands and abolition of separate pay scales for each rank.
(b) Pensions of pre-06 Lieutenant Generals to be upgraded to Rs 36,500 per month. The figure of Rs 36,500 is arrived at by taking into account 50% of the minimum of new HAG scale (Rs 67000-79000) and adding an MSP fitment of Rs 3000 (50% of MSP @6000).
(c) No further improvement or OROP for commissioned officers.
(d) Ceiling on war injury pension (that the total of service element and war injury element of war injury pension should not exceed the last drawn pay) has been removed.
(e) Anomalies in other casualty pensionary awards to be deliberated upon by the Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare (ESW) at MoD.
(Note : Readers are requested not to email me case-specific queries on the above since although I try my best to reply to individual mails, my profession does not allow me such fortune of time. Placing your queries as comments to blogposts would be a better idea. Thanks.)
27 comments:
Dear Navdeep,
Great news for jawans atleast. we witness diatribe against officers or misguided elements trying to drive a wedge between officers and jawans on the blog comments and chatbox.
the perception may not be real but can be changed positively to having posts related to all ranks in hindi or at least links to documents related to OR's benefits/cases uploaded in hindi in scribd.
a humble suggestion
nelson
1 the announcement at para (d) of the blogpost is a positive step and interesting. is it only for pre-06 disability pensioners?
2 (with 60% war-injury element for 100% disabilty),for post-06 disability pensioners the difference would be marginal as it would affect persons with war-injury pensions only that too with disability of greater than 85%. even then the benefit is upto 10% of last pay for 100% disabled.
nelson
"No further improvement or OROP for commissioned officers". Is this final? Does this mean that officers will not get OROP ever?
Sir,
THANKS FOR THE GREAT NEWS. You gave a great relief to PBORs.
Jai HO.
@ Maj Navdeep
Sir,
This is FIRST BIG POSITIVE news for our PBOR brethren and would come as huge relief to them who were running out of patience as Govt was not forthcoming (so far atleast) on issues concerning them and had turned CHETWODE's moto upside down (as 'they' are used to!).
However, this is only a partial victory. There are still many issues left which are yet to be resolved. And thus struggle for those shall continue.
PS: Sir, thanks a million for your valuable advice, personally speaking!
Congrats to PBOR - Well desrved but nowhere near OROP! Support IESM which will hopefully continue to fight the corrupt functionaries in the Govt
Govt should actually call this POROP ie Pseudo-OROP
Dear Navdeep ,
A great service you are rendering to serving and veterans of Fauj. May god bless you for this.
I want to know if a minimum basic pay is fixed for Col(TS).I retired on 31 May 06.
Gp Capt Sastry
My heartfelt thanks to Gen Kadian and his team and of course this blog for getting things moving on this issue
The pension formula for PBOR is fine and just. but the effective date shuold have been 01012006 and not 01072009 as proposed in the budget.while all central govt. employees got arrears wef 01012006 why at all should the PBORS be descrimineted against.?The cause of action is from 6 CPC and so the award should also be from the same date.
There were newspaper reports that the PBORs have been given 70 percent pensionary weightage by the GOM which looked into the core anomalies as pointed out by the AF HQ. But suddenly the 70 percent is reduced to INCREASED pensionary weightage ,PIP and reduction of pensinary gap etc. what a cunning move by the powers that be as everyone has lost interest and resigned to the fate as time passed by.I feel the director pay ad allowances policy and ESM organisations should take up the matter of 70 percent weightage once more.
@ Maj Navdeep
Sir,
As per your blogpost and following portion of news report appearing in today's Tribune Newspaper "...The recommendations of the high-level committee led by the cabinet secretary that looked into the disparities in pension of ex-servicemen that have been forwarded to and accepted by the government, do not include OROP for officers, highly placed Defence ministry sources revealed.
This revelation is contradictory to Defence Minister AK Anthony’s recent statement reported in certain sections of the media that the recommendation of OROP for officers, too, had been accepted..."
Well..well..well I stand vindicated that RM has lied to the parliament about grant of OROP to Offrs. If 'BHARAT SARKAR' can lie to Election Commission (remember EC's Notice to Govt in middle of elections!!) so a minister of that Govt lying should NOT COME AS A SURPRISE to anybody.
Sir,
What happened to the government accepted 70% pension for the post 2006 retirees. Please update us in this regard.
The waiting is quite traumatic especially when the other two issues involved were sorted out (Lt Col pay and the Lt Genl pay).
After solving of the other two issues there is a general feeling among the post 06 retirees that the govt accepted 70 % will not see the light of the day.
Sir please update us in this regard.
@Navdeep : As usual always ahead and accurate for the info related to Defence Personnel. I sincerly appriciate your efforts. In this blog post para (a) depicts that the higher end of 5th CPC scale have been taken into account to work out the revised pension. In that case, then what is formula the expected for PBORs post 2006. I believe this recommendation will clash at some points with the Post 06 PBORs where PBOR post 2006 would draw less pension then Pre 2006 his counterparts. Is there ride up for that?
There was a report regarding a committee headed by smt Indu Libheran secretary defence expenditure to sort out anomalies in the various pension tables issued in connection with the 6cpc.The govt. denied the existence of this committee to the Elctoion Commission during the run up to the Elections.
Dear navdeep sir, could you please confirm the existence of such a committee and its terms of references.Incidentaly the name reminds one of the LIbheran commission which looked in to the Babri masjid demolition and submitted its report after long long years.
@Navdeep : What surpises me the post time of this article 12:30AM. Am I right? Gr8 and hats off to your concern regarding AF personnel.
Major MR Penghal said...
Dear Maj Navdeep,
The Govt has sorted out problem of PBOR pensioners pre-2006 and they would get good pension. Only problem remains is that of Majors and Captains reired with more than 20 years service prior to 1-1-2006.If govt in its magnanimity solves this problem by fixing their last pay drwan into revised pay bands and adds up MSP, then this problem can be solved easily. Since no officer in the rank of Major or captain would be retiring after 1-1-2006 except those commissioned from ranks. In any case they will earn pension equal to half of their last drawn emoluments on completion of 20 years of service after 2-9-2008. So disparities would remain. But when the govt has redressed grivance of PBOR and of Lt Cols and Lt Generals, why leave the vetern majors having more than 20 years commissioned service. There is no logic that pre-2006 majors should draw minimum pension of Rs 14100/- wheras a time sacale Lt Col with equal number of years of service and equal pay should get minimum pension of 25700/-? What is extra work he has done while performing duties of the post of Major?
I request the retired officers of the rank of Col and above who are contributing to this bolg give their opinioms without any bias.
The information you passed regarping OROP and chandrasekhar committee report is highly apriciated.cotinue the good job .we have to continue work for the parity in rank .
WHAT ABOUT REMOVAL OF 33 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR FULL PENSION ? HAS IT BEEN FINALLY APPROVED ? CAN ANYONE THROW SOME LIGHT ON IT ?
Sir,
As per para (a), PBOR to be comuted by taking into account the top end of 5th CPC scale and notionally (throgh fitment formula) configuring it within the 6th CPC paybands instead of basing the same on the minimum pay scale. I have a very paculiar issue to high light. The PBOR retired pre-2006 are not allowed the pension of the rank they last held if the service is less than 10 month in that rank where as pension of post-06 is calculated on the basis of the last pay drawn. Hence a Hav promoted to Nb Subedar with less than 10 month will have Hav. pension and other will get Nb subedar pension with higher package which is highly injustice.
hi sir,
Went thru it..but a doubt exist?
Is a SS offr with 20% disability(aggravated due to mil service) opting out of service after 5 years entitled disability & service pension?
Lengdon
Dear Maj Navdeep
I am med cat with 20% disability due to m/c accident in which I fractured my rt foot toes. later got 30% disability for hypertension. The med board are showing these as non-attributable. what is net disability - is it the aggregate of the two disabilities or the highest one. Will the release med board/ cda grant me disability as attributable or otherwise. Pl advice Iam retiring in 2010.
Col Metharu
Dear Major Navdeep,
Why dont you answer to the question of what has happened to 70% pension to PBOR's. Atleast write something to sooth us.
Dear Maj Navdeep,
Could you please update us on para (e)?
What has been decided on the disability pension of pre-2006 disabled soldiers?
Has the slab system been modified to percentage system?
Is the bunching applicable to them?
Thanks
Lt Col Bhatia
SANTOKH said...
Dear Maj Navdeep,
Could you please update us on para (e)?
What has been decided on the disability pension of pre-2006 disabled soldiers?
Has the slab system been modified to percentage system?
Is the bunching applicable to them?
This may please be included in Q & A if needed
Thanks
Lt Col Bhatia
Dear Navdeep sir,
How much basic pension will Sgt get, who retired in 2003 after completing 20 yrs of service in Indian Air Force. please do reply.
Respected Sir,
I have a clarification regarding the Equivalent Graduation issued by Defence. SSC, Railways and Banks are accepted the above graduation in `C" gp, but in AP it would not accepted. Sir, Every exam have a written exam, interview and then selection. It means who have ability to face the above exam should be applied. Sir, my suggestion is this graduation may be admitted to which post had a graduation. Please clarify the above ....
To Raju "Equivalent Graduation" for Gp C Post in Central/State Govt. I think service of 15 years in AFs with matriculation is treated as Equivalent to apply for GP. C Post ( Where eligibility is Graduation only). You can apply for Staff Selection Commission, State Selection Commission Exams and there is 10% reservation for exservicemen in Gp C posts.
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